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DrSLUGFly · Jul 22, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55

lol... not even worth mentioning the validity of the picture... but the font match is pretty smooth.

Freyas · Jul 22, 2005, 05:13 AM // 05:13

It is possible to hack the client application on your computer- people have done that for speed hacks. Unfortunately, the server keeps track of all the information about your character, and ignores anything your client tells it that can't happen. Sure, you can zoom around 10x faster than normal movement speed, but to everyone else, you move normally, and you don't actually see mobs that are not nearby to where the server has your character, and you'll routinely get warped back to where you are at for the server(as a side note, this is where rubberbanding comes from- if the server thinks your caught on something, and your client doesn't, a couple seconds later, you'll jump back to where the server says you are).

I'm sure a similar thing could be done for attribute-point allocation, client-side, but in the photoshopped picture, if you ever use that Signet of Judgement, you'll be doing the damage of a level 4 SoJ, as that's the amount of attribute points the server says you've put into smiting prayers(since there's 5 to boost it to the next level). Your client can say whatever it wants, but you're not going to have any advantage when you actually play.

Whether or not the picture is photoshopped, it's not having any effect on the game- only the view from your client.

The Amazing Krandor · Jul 22, 2005, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Where, exactly, does one find henchmen in the game that are simply named "Healer Henchman"?

Nizzim · Jul 22, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

in the tombs silly

The Warbringer · Jul 22, 2005, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopGun

I doubt that Syde, that'd be a hardcoded hack, and a pretty useless one at that.

You know, I thought the font type was very convincing, he just needs to learn to count.

Nope, it wouldn't be a "hardcoded hack". I could do it and I'm 13...

Arturo02 · Jul 22, 2005, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Not that we needed any more evidence that this person's claim is bogus...

this is an upclose version of this person's pic:

this is an upclose version of my hero screen:

Note the clarity of the pixels around the numbers on my pic as compared to the first pic. Lots of fuzziness which most times means doctoring.

Not that we didn't know this already

*edit* not to mention the different font usage as I have since noticed hehe

Lasareth · Jul 22, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturo02

Note the clarity of the pixels around the numbers on my pic as compared to the first pic. Lots of fuzziness which most times means doctoring.

Not that we didn't know this already

*edit* not to mention the different font usage as I have since noticed hehe

I don't mean to be a party pooper or dead-horse beater, but pixel quality is related to compression quality of the saved pic.

Also the overlay settings, try using -largest- on the Options menu, and his font will look a lot more believable.

I don't think this is photoshopped, just messed with in coding. And not knowing how server client data check and balance works, I'm not going to go into its impact on gameplay.

Arturo02 · Jul 22, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

I don't mean to be a party pooper or dead-horse beater, but pixel quality is related to compression quality of the saved pic.

Also the overlay settings, try using -largest- on the Options menu, and his font will look a lot more believable.

I don't think this is photoshopped, just messed with in coding. And not knowing how server client data check and balance works, I'm not going to go into its impact on gameplay.

it's doctored. If you blow it up you see the differences.

Dr Morbius · Jul 22, 2005, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick James

Let the crying begin.

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

But seriously Rick... to silence all of the doubters, why not give us video eh?

I have a funny feeling though, we'll never see it.

DrSLUGFly · Jul 22, 2005, 10:51 AM // 10:51

I can't believe that the validity of this is even being discussed... there's no mystery to solve, there's no proof needed...

Dr Morbius · Jul 22, 2005, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Because we're bored?

Saerden · Jul 22, 2005, 11:18 AM // 11:18

There is no way to disprove his / her claims. The picture may be a real screenshot - the interesting part is wether the server uses his numbers, or not. And there is no way you can disprove that. He can fail to prove them, but this is no falsification. Or can you disprove the existence of a hiding god, too?

Mithie · Jul 22, 2005, 11:37 AM // 11:37

How high do you want the numbers? Just tap into the Guild Wars memory instance, find the address of those stats, and raise them up. Clientside only, but it'll get the effect up.

Imrys Starborn · Jul 22, 2005, 11:40 AM // 11:40

Everyone take a gooood look at the number 5 on both pictures posted above... they are NOT the same... hence, the foto is undoubtedly fixed

Dr Morbius · Jul 22, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imrys Starborn

Everyone take a gooood look at the number 5 on both pictures posted above... they are NOT the same... hence, the foto is undoubtedly fixed

Good catch. On my fist viewing of the pictures, I couldn't see any real difference in font styles... but you're 100% correct about the 5 being different. The 5's from the legit image have no serif... whereas the fake 5's definitely have serifs. Again... good catch!

Edit: And now that I'm looking more closely at the serif's (or lack of them), I'm noticing issues with the 4's and 2's as well.

Synthos · Jul 22, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17

I think the bottom photo is just stretched a bit, so the serif is hidden.

Dr Morbius · Jul 22, 2005, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthos

I think the bottom photo is just stretched a bit, so the serif is hidden.

Taking your theory into consideration, I went and stretched a portion of the "alleged" fake.

I even went a little overboard with the stretch... and as you can see... the serifs remain. In other words... FAKE!

Edit: Another way to look at is... the 5's in the legit image go flat at the base. The 5's in the fake image are rounded at the base.

zidane888 · Jul 22, 2005, 01:17 PM // 13:17

I work at premier graphics on a typsetting team. IE our job is to replace as precisely as possible words/letters/numbers using a database of fonts. ^ this image is doctored period.

Dr Morbius · Jul 22, 2005, 01:27 PM // 13:27

As I stated earlier... I'm bored. So here's zoomed in look at the differences in the 5's.

Algren Cole · Jul 22, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

the fake pictures uses a Tahoma Family Font the real graphics are a Roman Family Font....close but you'll notice that the kerning is off as well...which could have been faked had he just used seperate layers for each number.